I mean, of course, we're all looking at each other and thinking, you know, this couldn't possibly pass.

Like, this is such an overreach.

It's just so not in the realm of reality that something...

Scott Liebelowitz was running a pediatric gender clinic in Ohio when lawmakers in his state banned the care.

Well, we have a million questions for you.

I'm ready.

Scott had trained with Laura Edwards Leeper at the first youth gender clinic in the U.S. in Boston

before moving to Columbus to lead a program at a children's hospital there.

It had become one of the most well-known clinics

to practice the assessment and therapy-based model in the U.S.,

with the process more closely resembling the Dutch.

At one point, there were 10 full-time mental health providers on the team.

But things changed quickly.

Yeah, when we talked the other day, a few days ago, you were like, you basically described last year as the worst year in your career.

Can you sort of map out sort of what that year was like, like what was happening and how that was affecting you

and your patients in the clinic?

Mm-hmm.

Well, I think it actually starts before a year ago.

Yeah.

It started over three years ago.

In 2021, Republicans in the state legislature introduced the Save Adolescence from Experimentation Act, the Safe Act.

We have a quorum present and we'll proceed as a full committee.

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