You put it to say I would rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the Boston

telephone directory than by the 2,000 people on the faculty at Harvard University.

As government expands, liberty contracts.

It's funny, sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is,

the people are lining up the food.

That's a good thing.

First of I think you missed his time.

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It's the Ricochet Podcast with Peter Robinson and Rob Long. I'm James Lylix and today we talk to Norman Podhoritz and we don't need anybody else.

Let's have ourselves a podcast.

It's the Ricochet Podcast, but it's not any Ricochet podcast. It's number 450. What a meaningless milestone, but a milestone nevertheless

We're happy to have made it with your help and also of course the invaluable contributions of the contributions.

The founders for heaven's sakes, Peter Robinson and Rob Long.

Hi guys.

Hello, hello.

James, how are you?

I couldn't be better.

I'm on the cusp of car buying, which means I got to deal with odd millennial salesman who know nothing

about the passion of cars. It's so... What do you talk about? The internet has solved that.

Yes, yeah. No, you know, the millennials have ruined car dealerships. I'm convinced

of it. I mean after dealing with so of these people who have no fellow feeling for that have no ability to slap you on the back and flat. I went into the dealership and I honest to God told the kid I said I woke up this morning feeling like I wanted to be lied to and

flattered but since there's not a brothel in my neighborhood I thought I'd

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