Joining us today on the enemy's list is Jeff Tupin.

Jeff is an author, an attorney, and has a absolutely troubling, dark, brilliant new

book called Homegrown, Timothy McVeigh and the Rise of Right Wing Extremism.

And for those of you who are too young to remember Tim McVeigh and I find myself as

an approach 60, wondering how people can't know this story.

There was also maintained, but was called an enemy's list.

Democrats want Republicans dead.

I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody.

The women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having

abortions. On January 6th of 2021, you had tens of thousands of people peacefully protesting.

You're the president of the United States. You can de-class if I just by saying,

it's de-class life. It's not a right wing conspiracy theory. It's not queuing on.

It's real. I'm Rick Wilson. And this is the enemy's list.

Jeff, tell us about who Tim McVeigh was and tell us about why his attack on the

Federal, the Murrow Federal Building in Oklahoma City represented a really dark turning point in a

and what has been a rising and it has continued to rise tide of American violence on the far

right. Rick, I suffer from the same issue of sometimes assuming that people are my same

advanced age, which is not the case. So let's just not bury the lead.

On April 19th, 1995, Tim McVeigh set off a truck bomb outside the Alfred P. Murrow Building in

Oklahoma City. And he killed 168 people, including 19 children. I think many people remember

that there was a daycare center on the second floor of that building and most of the children

there were killed. And most of the people, many people also remember that he set off the bomb

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