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Talking Feds

The 'No Kings' Plan to Make Trump the Next Orbán

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

News, Politics, Government

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Harry talks with Leah Greenberg and Ezra Levin, the principal force behind the massive and wildly successful No Kings protests. They fill Harry in on the politics and mechanics of building one of the biggest popular mobilizations in American history, and how to harness the popular forces in a concrete way to defeat Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Talking Fed's One-on-One, One,

0:09.2

Deep-Dive discussions with national figures

0:12.3

about the most fascinating and consequential issues

0:16.2

defining our culture and shaping our lives.

0:19.9

I'm your host, Harry Littman. Welcome to another

0:23.5

Talking Fed's One-on-One, except this is a Talking Feds one-on-two. It's with a high-wadage powerhouse

0:30.9

couple that have been instrumental in organizing public opposition to the Trump administration,

0:39.9

Leah Greenberg and Ezra Levin,

0:47.3

who are the co-founders and co-executive directors of the Indivisible Project, the group most powering the No King's rallies.

0:49.7

Leah is a longtime political organizer, and before Indivisible, she worked on Capitol Hill for former

0:55.7

Virginia Congressman Tom Perrello. Ezra worked in Texas Democratic organizing, in particular

1:02.8

for former Congressman Lloyd Doggett. He was also Associate Director of Federal Policy for a

1:08.6

national anti-poverty nonprofit. They've both been fighting Trump

1:13.8

hard since he first took office over 10 years ago. Leah, Ezra, really great to meet you. Thanks so

1:20.7

much for joining Talking Fizz. Pleasure to be here. Great to be talking with you, Harry.

1:24.4

So we're speaking in the wake of the third round of No King's Rallies

1:28.8

that took place around the country a few weekends ago on March 28th. How do you think it compared

1:35.2

with the previous two? And how did you two spend your days? It was bigger. It was bigger than

1:41.9

the previous one. So for the third time, we've had the largest protests in American history. The first largest was No Kings 1, which had about 5 million people at 2,100 protests. Then we had No Kings 2 last October, where we had 2,700 protests and 7 million people. And this protest, I know when we were building up, we said this is

2:02.2

going to be the largest protest in history. And it sounds like bravado. It sounds like bluster.

2:06.5

But look, it's the third time. And I think it's a reflection both of how many people around

2:13.0

the country want something different than what we're seeing from this regime and how much organization

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