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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

The No.1 Communication Expert: Never Argue With a Narcissist! The One Word All Liars Use. This Mistake Leads to Divorce!

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

FlightStory

Leisure, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.8652 Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 114 minutes

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Summary

Jefferson Fisher sits down with Paul to unpack the communication habits that can quietly make or break relationships, from texts we should never send to arguments we should never try to win. As a trial lawyer turned viral speaking coach, Jefferson has built a following of millions by teaching one thing: how to have hard conversations without losing yourself. He reveals the one word all liars use, how to spot a narcissist in an argument, and the subtle cues that signal whether a relationship will survive or silently collapse. He also explains how to master confrontation without creating conflict, and the powerful eye contact trick that can change the way we connect. This is a conversation about how to show up with confidence and strength, even when the stakes are high. Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk  https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod  Follow Jefferson here: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher/?hl=en  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justaskjefferson?lang=en-GB The Next Conversation: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/462125/the-next-conversation-by-fisher-jefferson/9780241719886  (00:00) Intro (01:46) Self Esteem and Communication (07:07) Preparing to Spot the Lie (08:47) Let Your Breath Be the First Word You Say (12:28) How Important Is Context to Communication? (14:06) How Do We Best Connect Through Conversation? (18:42) Never Win an Argument (22:34) Active Listening (26:47) Don't Step on Their Cry (29:06) The Importance of Smiling (33:41) Body Language and Pacing (38:24) How Do We Spot a Liar? (45:11) Indeed Ad (46:22) Tinder Ad (47:25) Temperature Checks (49:53) Emotional Availability in Men (58:52) Toxicity in Relationships (1:18:15) Dealing with Narcissists (1:24:16) Dealing with Gaslighting (1:29:47) How to Have Difficult Conversations (1:40:09) Jefferson's Conversation Demonstration (1:43:58) Jefferson's Parting Advice (1:45:26) Jefferson's Most Profound Conversation (1:48:50) Paul's Takeaways (1:50:56) Love Journal Ad Sponsored by: Indeed: https://indeed.com/weneedtotalk    Tinder: https://tinder.com/en-GB  ♥️ Get The Love Journal now: https://bit.ly/lovejournal-mp  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The secrets are spotting a liar in a relationship.

1:10.6

First look at their body positioning and you're going to ask them something and you're going to see them shift. One of the best ways I've seen if you want to catch a liar is

1:13.6

Jefferson Fisher

1:16.6

When you set out to win an argument, you will lose the relationship.

1:21.6

If somebody says something we don't like, then it just starts to grow with Fester and before you know it.

1:25.6

Everybody's yelling. You're wanting to throw something. You're wanting to lash out. You're saying

1:28.9

things you don't even meet until somebody takes it too far. The person who always wants to be right is

1:32.8

often the person who wants to be alone. This is the one that predicts divorce at 90% rates, right?

1:37.7

Exactly. You want to know the secret to really being able to control any conversation. Yes. We have two glasses of water. One is going to represent your mind

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