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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

I'm Not Always The Best Muslim: Why My Marriage Failed & What Really Went Down at the BAFTAs! Big Zuu EXCLUSIVE!

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

FlightStory

Leisure, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.8652 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

In this unfiltered episode of We Need To Talk, rapper and BAFTA-winning TV chef Big Zuu opens up like never before. Zuu reflects on his childhood, sharing the sacrifices his mother made to give him a better life. For the first time, he reveals the truth about his past relationships and whether he’s truly moved on from his ex. He talks about the explosive highs and crushing lows of his career - from his rapid rise to grime MC to the face of Big Zuu’s Big Eats, and the burnout that followed after winning two BAFTAs. Paul and Zuu dive deep into the challenges of representation in the TV industry, the musical influences that shaped him, and how food became a powerful vehicle for connection. This is Big Zuu like you’ve never seen before. Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk  https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod  Follow Big Zuu here: Instagram https://g2ul0.app.link/aba8xYKf4Tb  TikTok https://g2ul0.app.link/J0qIDQNf4Tb  (00:00) Intro(01:54) Big Zuu's Real Name(04:42) Big Zuu's Musical Influences Growing Up(05:46) Where Did Zuu Feel Most Safe as a Child?(08:05) When Zuu First Visited Sierra Leone as a Child(11:54) How Zuu Became an MC(21:50) A Message for Zuu from AJ Tracey(24:55) Zuu's Transition from MC to TV Presenter(29:01) Zuu's Marriage(42:20) Zuu's Experience of the BAFTA Awards Ceremony(49:21) The State of Diversity in the UK TV Industry(54:48) Zuu Addresses the Perception of British Muslims Today(59:30) Diversity Behind the Camera in UK TV(1:05:01) Tinder Ad(1:06:14) The History of Sierra Leone and Zuu's Family Connection(1:09:25) Zuu's Mum's Story of Emigration(1:11:23) Zuu's Perception of His Own Masculinity(1:14:44) Zuu's Advice on How to Create Connections with Others(1:18:02) Zuu's Mental Health Struggles(1:22:31) Zuu's Current Love Life(1:26:04) Zuu's Other Business Ventures(1:29:38) Paul Uses AI To Roast Big Zuu Tracks(1:32:06) Most Memorable Conversation(1:35:28) Paul Surprises Zuu with His Favourite Cuisine(1:39:24) Paul's Takeaways Sponsored by: Tinder: https://tinder.com/en-GB  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I got a mind.

0:01.0

I was trying to change the world, but she didn't want to be by my side.

0:04.0

So you still love her?

0:05.0

Oh, this guy, right?

0:07.0

I knew who's gonna get here?

0:09.0

Where's the camera?

0:10.0

I did it.

0:11.0

We know they know.

0:12.0

We never lay low.

0:13.0

We don't play though.

0:14.0

I was a depressed child.

0:16.0

Like, I don't have a lot.

0:17.0

I don't have a big family. I used to always make noise and always try and be the class clown

0:21.8

because I was masking how I felt deep down.

0:24.8

I felt lost.

0:25.9

I don't feel like I've ever expressed this much.

0:28.0

So what gave you the confidence to do music?

0:30.3

I started freestyling for fun.

0:31.7

And then one day, one of my friends,

0:33.1

he said, you know what?

0:34.1

You're good.

0:34.7

And I've had to make a choice. I'm like, do I stay in union or do I leave and focus on music? My mom's like, the devil has taken over our family and then

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