On a freezing November night in North Dakota, a nursing student and mother of three was stabbed 44 times while her two-year-old son slept in the next room.

At first, it looked like a brutal but straightforward case of domestic violence and revenge.

But as investigators started pulling at the threads, they uncovered a years-long obsession, a husband and wife fueled by hatred, and a murder plot so cold-blooded, it almost sounds fictional.

Hey guys, and welcome to the Moms and Mysteries podcast, a true crime podcast featuring myself, Mandy, and my dear friend, Melissa. Hi, Melissa. Hi, Mandy. How are you?

I am doing well. I feel like I'm already discombobulated, mentally disorganized, and like fully don't know even what day it is because my kids are officially out of school.

Today was the last day of school.

Yeah, I feel like you got a couple more days. I know. Already, I'm like, wait a minute. What day is it? Yesterday I thought it was Friday all day. And today is actually Friday. Oh, that's the worst feeling. Yeah. I don't know. I've been all thrown off. So anyway, it's already starting. It started very quickly. As soon as my kids got out of school today, I was like,

it's a free for all. It's crazy time. We don't know. I've been all thrown off. So anyway, it's already starting. It started very quickly. As soon as my kids got out of school today, I was like, it's a free for all. It's crazy time. We don't even know what day of the week it is anymore. And we don't care. So that's how we're doing.

I love it. That's great. We're not there yet over here, but we had our episode out on McKenzie,

Shirilla, a week and a half ago, two weeks ago, and so many people have been talking about the crash on Netflix.

Oh my gosh. It's everywhere. It absolutely is because people really, I mean, it's just so explosive and just, I've listened to so many jail calls now. I've gone through that rabbit hole. But there's another documentary that's out on Hulu right now. It's called The Nightmare Upstairs, What Happened to Tie and Bryn?

It's about these siblings who, because of like a custody thing, ended up barricading themselves in their bedroom for 54 days.

And like to not have to go to like mandated meetings with their dad.

I need people to tell me what they think of this. Mandy, I need you to watch it. I need everyone to watch it. It's, I don't know who is wrong exactly in this story, but like everyone kind of pissed me off. And I also felt that way in the crash. I love that. I love being pissed off at everyone. I know. My son and I are watching Hell's Kitchen right now, and he

wanted one guy to go home. I was like, here's the thing. If he goes away, we don't really have

anyone to hate. So we kind of want him around a little longer. That's what I learned. But if you have seen The Nightmare upstairs, please let me know what you think. I don't really know how to feel. And it's really interesting. I just, I, I, I don't really have a conclusion and I don't like

that feeling. Yeah. I definitely, I don't really have a conclusion and I don't like that feeling.

Yeah, I definitely want to check that out so I can get on the same page with you and be angry with me.

You know what you're talking about. Yes, that would be great. All right. So let's get into the story for this week.

It was just before 6 a.m. on a Friday morning, Friday the 13th, actually, back in 2015.

Christopher Jackson was pulling up to his house on 12th Avenue northwest in Minot, North Dakota.

He had just finished a long overnight shift at Walmart, and he was probably just looking forward to getting inside and getting some sleep.

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