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Hello and welcome to Political Thinking,

a conversation with, rather than an interrogation

of someone who's political thinking,

shapes our political thinking.

My guess this week is a man who can claim

to have more influence on what children in England are taught,

how they learn to read, how they learn to count,

how they learn British history,

than pretty much anyone else

for the past 10 or so years.

Nick Gibb has been schools minister

for 10 of the past 13 years.

At a time, a pretty much constant political change.

In that time, there have been five prime ministers,

six education secretaries,

and 15 different housing ministers.

Nick Gibb, welcome to Political Thinking.

Thanks, Nick. How'd you do it?

How have you been the great survivor?

Well, I think I take these issues very seriously,

and I feel very strongly about education.

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