The next war and how to stop it

Oh God, What Now?

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.6 • 2.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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“Things are more dangerous now than during the Cold War.” The world is breaking up into mutually suspicious power blocs, Trump is trying to destroy NATO and Putin has learned that aggression pays off. Is a major war coming or can we prevent it? In an enthralling conversation, defence commentator Peter Apps – author of The Next World War – explains the forces and self-deceptions that are driving the world towards conflict, the key danger points, and what Britain can do to avert disaster. • Buy The Next World War through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund Oh God, What Now? by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. ESCAPE ROUTES • Peter has been reading Kingmaker, Sonia Purnell’s biography of Pamela Churchill Harriman • Alex recommends Booker Prize winner Flesh by David Szalay. • Seth was delighted to find Mask Or Face: Reflections in an Actor's Mirror by Michael Redgrave in a charity shop. www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Seth Thévoz and Alex von Tunzelmann. Audio Production by Robin Leeburn. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Cornershop. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:42.4	Hello and welcome to O God What Now, the podcast which is never Board of Peace.
1:48.4	Thank you for your attention in this matter.
1:51.2	On today's show, we look at the worsening international situation.
1:55.4	Incredibly, for the first time in decades, we face the very real prospect within maybe the next five years or so of war
2:02.7	across Europe and possibly elsewhere in the world, especially as the US's commitment to defending
2:08.0	Europe seems tenuous at best. And worryingly, there is a consensus that neither Britain nor Europe
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