The Next Move
From Our Own Correspondent
BBC
4.4 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 8 November 2018
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Change is coming to South Africa, says Cyril Ramphosa, but we must be patient. As the President plots his next move, and investigations into allegations of corruption under his predecessor Jacob Zuma continue, Andrew Harding reflects on the very different fortunes of the two very different leaders.
Kate Adie introduces this and other stories from correspondents around the world.
Allis Moss is in Norway – one of the greenest countries in the world but also one of the richest in oil and gas.
Jai Jethwa investigates why so many Indian men, including his own father, have moustaches. From Bollywood stars to upper-caste martial warriors, this particular type of facial hair has long been associated with masculinity and power.
Jessica Bateman explores attempts to breathe new life into some of Greece’s increasingly empty villages.
And Tim Mansel meets a woman who once slapped the German Chancellor; it was 1968 and Beate Klarsfeld wanted to draw attention to Kurt-Georg Kiesinger’s Nazi past.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts. |
| 0:04.6 | Hello. Today you worry about climate change, you go green by utilizing water power, |
| 0:11.9 | but you live off the sale of oil and gas, a Norwegian problem. |
| 0:16.8 | In India we consider something of grave importance to its men, the mustache, while in Greece we visit the picturesque but increasingly |
| 0:25.7 | empty villages in the countryside. And you can't stand the man in charge of your |
| 0:31.6 | country. Here's a lesson from Germany. Give him a good slap. |
| 0:37.0 | Almost nine months since becoming the President of South Africa and nearly a year since taking over the leadership of the ruling ANC party, |
| 0:45.8 | Cyril Ramaposa has described the corruption that has engulfed his country as an amoeba with tentacles all over. But he insisted that the very dark period |
| 0:56.7 | under his predecessor Jacob Zuma was coming to an end. Andrew Harding has been reflecting |
| 1:02.2 | on the very different fortunes of two very different characters. |
| 1:07.0 | Cyril Ramaposa eases into the room like a suave but genial uncle, all round edges a little hunched a smile that seems to say |
| 1:16.2 | sure I'm in charge here but let's not get too carried away by this president thing |
| 1:20.6 | shall we he's tired this, a long week of international travel, |
| 1:25.3 | followed by a ruthlessly over-scheduled day of speeches, conferences, and the prospect of a late flight |
| 1:30.7 | down to Cape Town this evening, then more of the same tomorrow. |
| 1:34.8 | Was it easier being deputy president? I ask him. |
| 1:37.7 | He slumps into an armchair and grins. |
| 1:40.7 | It's a warm affable grin, a grin that has eased Ramaposa through a lifetime of tough |
| 1:45.8 | negotiations, securing deals to dull the cruelties of apartheid, deals to prevent civil |
| 1:52.0 | war, to construct a democracy, to make himself very rich indeed, and most recently to seize power. |
| 1:59.0 | Yes, he chuckles, maybe I should have stuck with the old job. |
| 2:03.0 | Cyril Ramaposa has been in charge of South Africa for less than a year, |
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