This is the first episode of our next four-year series here on the weeds.

We're going to be looking ahead to what to expect from a Joe Biden administration.

Of course, a whole range of policy initiatives on my first cast.

Carl Smith is an economist that focuses on tax policy, the labor market,

macro economics, and even better, user Republican.

As we were able to sit down and talk about the prospects for deal-making on the budget,

what kind of good can come out of a divided government situation.

I think it's just a great way to start thinking about the next four years.

Hello, welcome to another episode of the weeds on the Vox Media Podcast Network.

I'm Matthew Glacias.

I'm my guest today, Carl Smith, has been on the show before.

He is a Bloomberg opinion columnist formally with the tax foundation and other places.

I think importantly, for our purposes, he's a really smart guy on the economy.

He also knows some Republicans in Congress and what they think.

Which I think is important to think about.

I think a lot of us put a lot of work into thinking about what a Biden administration would

look like, anticipating a bigger democratic gain down ballot.

We are now looking more at an era in which economic policy, especially because it has,

there's just deadlines, funding expires for things, their debt ceilings.

You can't just not do fiscal policy.

You're always doing something.

It's going to be a bipartisan something.

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