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The Next Call with David Ridgen

The Next Call Introduces: The Devil You Know with Sarah Marshall

The Next Call with David Ridgen

CBC

True Crime

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In the 1980s and 90s, Satan and his followers were accused of brainwashing children, sacrificing babies, and infiltrating North American society on a massive scale — yet these thousands of alleged Satanists were nowhere to be found. Even so, the narrative became embedded in our cultural memory, warping everything it touched — including the lives of innocent people… And it never quite died out.


In a new 8-part series, Sarah Marshall (You’re Wrong About) explores the tangled web of the Satanic Panic, in a journey that will take you everywhere from Victoria, B.C. to rural Kentucky to San Antonio, Texas. This is a show about the people who experienced the Satanic Panic in real-time — the believers, the skeptics, the bystanders, and the wrongfully-convicted. What was it like to be a psychologist told to look for Satanists in every case; a mother slowly recovering memories of supposed Satanic abuse; a teenager accused of conspiracy to murder? The stories of these eyewitnesses point us toward the real underlying problems — individual and societal — that the Panic was a response to. The fault, as ever, was not with Satanists, but in ourselves.


You can find more episodes of The Devil You Know wherever you get your podcasts, and here: https://link.mgln.ai/TDYKxTNC

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In the 1980s and 90s, Satan and his followers were accused of brainwashing children, sacrificing babies, and infiltrating North American society on a massive scale.

0:50.8

Yet these thousands of alleged Satanists were nowhere to be found. Even so, the narrative became

0:57.7

embedded in our cultural memory, warping everything it touched, including the lives of innocent

1:04.3

people. And it never quite died out. I'm Sarah Marshall, and I'm a journalist obsessed with the past. You might know me as the

1:14.3

host of Your Wrong About, a podcast about misremembered history. In my new eight-part series,

1:20.6

The Devil You Know, I explore the tangled web of the satanic panic and a journey that will

1:26.2

take us everywhere from Victoria, BC, to

1:29.1

rural Kentucky, to San Antonio, Texas.

1:32.4

This is a show about the people who experienced the satanic panic in real time, the believers,

1:38.8

the skeptics, the bystanders, the wrongfully convicted.

1:42.9

The stories of these eyewitnesses point us toward the real underlying problems, individual

1:49.0

and societal, that the satanic panic was a response to.

1:53.5

The fault, as ever, was not in our Satanists, but in ourselves.

1:59.0

Now here's the first episode of The Devil You Know.

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