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You're listening to the 1A podcast. I'm Todd's Willick, and this is the News Roundup, a human cost that cannot be tolerated.

Words from a federal judge on Wednesday. She said it while temporarily blocking the Trump administration's moves to fire thousands of federal workers in response to Democrats' position on the government shutdown.

Since the shutdown began, October 1st, the White House has attempted to fire about 4,000 people,

though an exact number is hard to pin down.

It's happening under the guidance of Russell Vote, the director of the U.S. Office of Management and Budget,

the White House Budget Office.

He said the total number of layoffs will be north of 10,000 while appearing on the U.S. Office of Management and Budget, the White House Budget Office. He said the total number of layoffs will be north of 10,000 while appearing on the Charlie

Kirk Show from the White House on Wednesday.

We want to be very aggressive where we can be in shuddering the bureaucracy, not just the

funding, but the bureaucracy that we now have an opportunity to do that.

And that's where we're going to be looking for our opportunities.

Now, some Democrats on Capitol Hill want guarantees that fired workers will be rehired before they agree to reopen the government.

In the meantime, hundreds of thousands of workers are furloughed.

Others are showing up to their federal jobs without pay. We're going to start the roundup on day 17 of the shutdown with our panel this week. Wendy Benjaminson is Washington Senior Editor for Bloomberg News. Hi, Wendy.

Hey, thanks for having me. Margaret Tolliv is here, senior contributor for Axios and director of Syracuse University's Institute for Democracy, Journalism, and Citizenship. Three things that I enjoy. Hi, Margaret. Hi, Todd. It's great to be back and hi, Wendy. Hi. Also at the table with us, my old friend, Olivier Knox, his first time on the roundup, senior national correspondent for U.S. News and World Report. Great to see you, Olivier. Great to see you, Todd. Glad everybody's

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