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The Two Matts

The new world order is revealing itself

The Two Matts

The New World

Politics, Government, News Commentary, News

4.2577 Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

The Matts pick apart the extraordinary events of this week and make sense* of what they mean for life on planet Earth in the second quarter of the 21st century. What is Trump up to? How can Europe react to a threat from a NATO member state? What is the future of Greenland? How is it connected to a future territorial dispute in Siberia? And what straight line can be drawn from the horrific murder of a 37-year-old woman on the streets of Minnesota and the abduction of the Venezuelan president? 2026 has started off in remarkable fashion … and it looks like continuing this way for the foreseeable. Enjoy.     


*Sense isn’t really the right word. It’s more like making a (possibly futile) effort to divine some sort of logic in a wild pattern of behaviour from the most powerful man on the planet. You’ll just have to bear with us.


Produced by Matt Withers


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1:10.2

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1:34.8

Happy Thursday and happy New Year, everyone.

1:36.9

Happy New Year.

1:37.8

Hope 2026 is working out well for you so far.

1:41.9

We're back.

1:43.4

We're back.

1:47.3

It's a joy to be back. As is the news.

1:57.3

Anyone expecting a quiet beginning, a sort of slow on-ramped, 2026, sorely disappointed.

2:03.9

It is. And listen, we should explain to our dear listeners that we've got some new plans for how we're going to operate in 2026.

2:06.6

Exactly.

2:07.4

What we're going to do, folks, is we're going to do a regular, long podcast as ever on

2:13.2

a Thursday.

2:14.2

We're going to do our popular Q&A on the Sunday mornings, as usual. But we're not

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