The New Ukraine with Stavroula Pabst
Unlimited Hangout with Whitney Webb
Whitney Webb
4.9 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 16 May 2023
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Whitney talks to Stavroula Pabst about the reconstruction efforts in Ukraine and how much of Ukraine's government and infrastructure has been outsourced or sold off to Western corporations that are using the country as a testbed for 4IR technologies.
Follow Stavroula: @stavroulapabst and Substack
Originally published 05/11/23.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Unlimited Hangout. I'm your host, Whitney Webb. For well over a year, the war in Ukraine |
| 0:05.0 | continues to rage on with little sign of slowing down, despite the havoc brought by the conflict |
| 0:10.0 | within Ukraine, Western elites and multinational corporations are pouring millions and millions |
| 0:14.4 | of dollars into the post-war reconstruction of the country while the fighting continues unabated. |
| 0:20.6 | While that may seem nonsensical to some, the reality is that these actors see Ukraine |
| 0:24.9 | is the perfect testbed for a host of policies and technologies, particularly invasive |
| 0:29.6 | surveillance systems that are part of the rollout of the so-called Fourth Industrial |
| 0:33.7 | Revolution, or 4-I.R. |
| 0:36.2 | While the launch of the quote-unquote great reset trumpeted that |
| 0:39.2 | COVID was the catalyst for implementing these policies and technologies globally, in Ukraine, |
| 0:44.9 | the chaos of the conflict is being used to turn a desperate war-torn country into a 4-I.R testbed. |
| 0:51.1 | From digital ID to central bank digital currency to having sold off or outsourced much of |
| 0:55.6 | its critical infrastructure to Western businesses and tech giants, Ukraine is changing quickly |
| 1:00.9 | and may soon be unrecognizable. Ultimately, whatever Ukraine is becoming, it is being made |
| 1:06.0 | to fit the visions of Western elites like those who populate the meetings of the World Economic |
| 1:10.4 | Forum and those who sit within the meetings of the World Economic Forum and those |
| 1:11.3 | who sit within the boardrooms of companies like Black Rock. To discuss this and more, I'm joined by |
| 1:16.6 | Stavrula Papp. Stavrula is a writer, comedian, and Ph.D. student based in Athens, Greece, who |
| 1:21.6 | has written for the gray zone slate and the satire site reductress, among many others. She has also |
| 1:27.1 | recently become a contributor to |
| 1:28.6 | Unlimited Hangout with her new piece covering the very topics we will be discussing today. |
| 1:33.2 | It is entitled Ukraine's Future Lies in the Great Reset. Thanks for joining me today, Stavrula, |
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