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Trains, now on Uber. T's and C's apply. Check the Uber app. Hello and welcome to the New Statesman podcast. This week I'll be talking to our

technology writer Ian Stedman about the difference between wind and nuclear power.

But first I catch up with our Stagger's editor, New Shecalian and politics editor George Eaton, and I asked

them a little bit about the Rise of UKIP and what that means for the Tories and

their immigration policy. Jewish. George, do you think there's a risk that the toys are playing into UKIP's hands by making

immigration such a big issue, promising an emergency break talking about further

you know repatriation of powers from the EU absolutely I mean one Tory MP

says to me as I quoted my column this week if we make immigration the problem people

always think UKIP is the solution,

because there's no means by which they can trump this brutally simple offer UKIP have,

which is let's pull out of the EU and then we'll have full control over our borders again.

I think they do need to recognize as all parties do.

Immigration is rising up the list of votes concerns.

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