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Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

The New Science of Awe & How It Improves Your Physical & Mental Wellbeing with Dr Dacher Keltner (re-release) #527

Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Alternative Health, Mental Health

4.810.9K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2025

⏱️ 117 minutes

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Summary

When was the last time you felt awe? Perhaps it’s an emotion you notice often, evoked by the trees, clouds, or people around you. Or maybe it’s something you associate with more dramatic, less frequent experiences.   Today’s guest, Dr Dacher Keltner, has written a sublime book on the subject of awe. It’s called Awe: The New Science of Everyday Wonder and How It Can Transform Your Life and in it he proposes that awe is an emotion that’s all around us, waiting to be discovered – and in doing so, we can transform our health and lives for the better.   Dacher is one of the world’s foremost emotion scientists and Professor of Psychology at the University of California. He’s also Director of the Greater Good Science Center, which studies the psychology, sociology, and neuroscience of happiness and wellbeing. He has spent decades studying the science of happiness and believes that across the world, we are collectively having a moment of reflection and looking for more meaning.   In this conversation, Dacher defines awe as our response to powerful things that are obscure, vast, and mysterious. They’re beyond our frame of reference, making us feel small and filling us with wonder. But you don’t have to go to the Grand Canyon or see the Northern Lights to find them. Having studied people’s understanding and experience of awe in 26 different countries, he’s found eight types which are common – and easily available – to us all.   They include nature, music, moral beauty (noticing others’ kindness), birth and death, and one of my favourites, ‘collective effervescence’. This is that feeling of coming together with others, moving as one, and sharing the same consciousness – and you may have experienced it in a sports stadium, at a music concert, on a dancefloor, in worship, in a choir, or even at parkrun.    As to the benefits of awe, from calming inflammation to activating the vagus nerve; deactivating our brain’s stress centre, to reducing pain perception, these awe experiences are buffers for many modern health conditions that we can’t afford to miss.   We spoke in depth about how birth and death are strong triggers for awe, sharing our own painful yet precious experiences of watching close relatives die. We also considered how awe reduces the ego and makes you humble. And how having a regular practice of contemplation, like meditation or breathwork, can open us up to easily noticing and benefitting from everyday awe.   I truly believe that Dacher’s work can help all of us find greater meaning and greater health. He’s done a fantastic job of finding the science to support his words, but I think we also know intuitively that what he’s saying makes perfect sense. This was a wonderful and deeply profound conversation that contains science, storytelling, raw emotion and so much more. I hope you enjoy listening.   Support the podcast and enjoy Ad-Free episodes. This January, try FREE for 30 days on Apple Podcasts https://apple.co/feelbetterlivemore. For other podcast platforms go to https://fblm.supercast.com.   Thanks to our sponsors: https://exhalecoffee.com/livemore https://vivobarefoot.com/livemore https://drinkag1.com/livemore   Show notes https://drchatterjee.com/527   DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or qualified healthcare provider. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

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A lot of the health challenges come out of this internal individual focus that has just blown up today.

0:06.5

And awe moves us outside of ourselves.

0:09.6

Finding some sense of what is beyond transactional values and money and the life matters for your life expectancy.

0:16.9

Hey guys, how you doing?

0:19.0

I hope you having a good week so far. My name is Dr. Rongan Chatterjee,

0:23.5

and this is my podcast, Feel Better, Live More.

0:29.7

This podcast is getting so many new listeners at the moment because of the global release of my

0:36.0

brand new book, the number one Sunday Times bestseller,

0:39.9

Make Change That Lasts,

0:41.9

nine simple ways to break free from the habits that hold you back.

0:46.6

And so to give new listeners a real flavour of what my podcast is all about,

0:52.6

on Sundays,

0:53.9

I am re-releasing some classic evergreen conversations

0:57.4

from the back catalogue, and today's re-release is a rather beautiful conversation with Dr. Daka

1:05.0

Keltner. Daka is one of the world's foremost emotion scientists and a professor of psychology at the University of California.

1:15.7

He's also the author of the quite wonderful book, Or, The New Science of Everyday Wonder and How It Can Transform Your Life.

1:25.4

Now, Daka has spent decades researching the science of happiness and believes

1:30.0

that across the world, we are collectively having a moment of reflection and looking for more meaning.

1:37.7

In our conversation, DACA explains what exactly or is and the eight different types which are easily available to us all.

1:48.1

They include nature, music, moral beauty, birth and death, and one of my very favorites, collective effervescence,

1:56.3

that feeling of coming together with others and sharing the same consciousness,

2:01.6

as you may have experienced in a sports stadium, music concert or dance floor.

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