The new report on Trump and Epstein.
Tangle
Isaac Saul
4.7 • 816 Ratings
🗓️ 21 July 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
On Thursday, The Wall Street Journal published a report claiming that President Donald Trump signed a letter containing a lewd drawing and sexually suggestive text as part of a birthday album for Jeffrey Epstein in 2003. The Journal says it reviewed the contents of the previously unreported album and letters but has not released any of the documents. President Trump strongly denied writing the letter and, on Friday, filed a defamation lawsuit against The Journal and its owners. Separately, the Department of Justice (DOJ) asked a federal judge to unseal grand jury testimony from Epstein’s sex-trafficking prosecution as part of an effort to address ongoing public interest in the case.
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| 1:06.2 | the latest developments in the Jeffrey Epstein saga, including this Wall Street Journal story |
| 1:13.1 | that got published last week and President Donald Trump's response to that story. |
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