Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Muckrakeye podcast. I'm here with Nick Houseman. Nick, how you doing, Buck?

I'm doing well, you know. It's always a good day when we can sit down and talk about something.

We get to chat. We get to talk about the, what a, what a calm period of time we're in.

What a, what a non-truelling time. Yeah, yeah. I don't know and by the way because of that it does feel

like it's harder to find days where it just feels like okay but there are there are some days it just

it kind of feels okay certain things can kind of move out of the way a little bit we hopefully we can

all find moments of that you have to find moments of that. And thank you all for including us in

those moments. We got a show today. We're bringing on Dr. Roberto J. Gonzalez of San Jose State University,

the author of a recent article in the Watson Institute of International and Public Affairs at Brown

University titled How Big Tech in Silicon Valley are transforming the military

industrial complex. I thought it was a very good conversation about what's going on in our current

environment. I hope our listeners learn from it. For sure. I mean, you know, Dr. Strange Love or

Real Genius or Don't Look Up are very good primers if you want to prepare yourself. Nobody has ever loved and talked more about the movie Real Genius.

I'm guessing the people who've made it, starred in it, wrote it.

You love that movie.

You know, I am so happy that you say that.

It doesn't feel like I talked about it that much.

But whatever you express that I might have the feelings for are exactly accurate.

I couldn't love it more.

Well, everybody, we have a full show here.

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