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I'm Dr. James Dobson, and I'm thrilled that you've joined us.

Well, welcome to another edition of Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk.

The Family Talk program is the broadcast division of the Dr. James Dobson Family Institute.

And I'm Roger Marsh in the co-host seat once again talking with Cindy McMinneman, author, pastor's wife,

and she has a great new book out called The New Loneliness, Nurturing Meaningful Connections

When You Feel Isolated.

Cindy is an award-winning writer and a national speaker who has ministered to women for nearly

40 years.

She's the author of 17 books.

You've probably read one or more of them, including when women walk alone and when a woman

overcomes life's hurts.

As a Bible teacher, her passion is to help women strengthen their walk with the Lord and in their relationships. Cindy and her pastor-husband, Hugh, have one grown daughter, and they make their home in southern California, specifically in the northern San Diego County area. And Cindy, welcome back to Dr. James Dobson's family talk. Thank you. It's good to be talking with you again. Well, as we were talking about in our previous program, the new report out from the U.S. Surgeon General, it's a health alert for loneliness. In conjunction with that health alert, there was a document release that was called the U.S. Surgeon General's Advisory on the Healing Effects of Social Connection and Community. And then it defines social connection and why it matters.

And this is the type of conversation that a lot of Christians especially thought,

how in the world did we ever get to this point?

To share with us again your aha moment as to when you realize this is more than just something

that we feel on occasion, This is really epidemic level stuff

we're talking about. Well, I've always been an extrovert in a people person, and I never really

thought that I felt alone. And when I was alone, I liked those alone times with God. But my

daughter came into my office one day. She's a millennial, and she said, mom, I'm concerned about you because you don't have

any friends anymore. And I said, what do you mean? I don't have friends. I have tons of friends.

She said, no, I'm not talking about your writing clients. I'm not talking about people you network with

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