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Jennifer Rosner. She's an assistant professor at Fuller Theological Seminary

and also teaches Azusa Pacific University. She's the author of Finding Messiah, a journey

into the Jewishness of the gospel, and she has a new book out Healing the Schism, Carl Bart, Franz

Rosenvig, Rosenvig, and the new Jewish Christian encounter, our topic today.

Welcome, Professor Rosner.

Thanks, Mark. It's an honor to be here.

Well, the title word, what is the schism that you cite in your title?

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