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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

The new(ish) world order

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.610.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

America solidified its dominant posture in the international order following World War II and largely held that position for the following half-century. But as problems have accumulated at home and abroad, Americans are reconsidering their country’s role in the world, and so are its leaders. Alex Ward, author of The Internationalists: The Fight to Restore American Foreign Policy After Trump, joins us. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area Guest: Alex Ward (@alexbward). His book is The Internationalists: The Fight to Restore American Foreign Policy After Trump. Enjoyed this episode? Rate The Gray Area ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Be the first to hear new episodes of The Gray Area by following us in your favorite podcast app. Links here: https://www.vox.com/the-gray-area Support The Gray Area by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Producer: Jon Ehrens Engineer: Patrick Boyd Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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For the most part, Americans don't vote based on foreign policy.

1:07.0

There are exceptions to that rule of course, but in general,

1:10.0

President stand or fall on what they do or don't do on the domestic front.

1:19.4

But foreign policy obviously matters, because you can never fully separate what happens abroad

1:24.3

from what happens at home. Certainly not in today's globalized world. So if we looked

1:30.7

closely at Joe Biden's foreign policy resume, what grade would he get?

1:36.0

Is there a Biden doctrine?

1:38.0

And if so, how is it different from the Trump doctrine?

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