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The new Epstein emails about Trump

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🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Thousands of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein have been released by the US House Oversight Committee. One email alleges Donald Trump 'knew about the girls'. While the White House argues a selective leaking of this correspondence has created a fake narrative, what does this release tell us about the relationship between the US President and the convicted paedophile? 


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Guest: Josie Ensor, chief US reporter, The Times.

Host: Manveen Rana.

Producer: Taryn Siegel.

Clips: NBC News, Fox News.

Further Reading: What Epstein said about Trump in newly released emails

Further Listening: Can Trump shake his Epstein problem?

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0:00.0

From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story.

0:06.2

I'm Manvien Rana.

0:11.7

It began with a post on social media that caused quite the stir.

0:18.9

Oversight Dems have received new emails from Jeffrey Epstein's estate that raise serious questions about Donald Trump and his knowledge of Epstein's horrific crimes.

0:30.6

Read them for yourself. It's time to end this cover-up and release the files.

0:44.7

That message was followed by three email exchanges from Jeffrey Epstein's account that all mention Donald Trump.

0:47.7

In one email from 2019, Epstein wrote that Trump, quote, knew about the girls.

0:52.7

In another exchange, Epstein wrote that the president,

0:55.4

quote, spent hours at his house with a person who House Democrats say is one of Epstein's alleged

1:01.6

victims. And then another tranche of around 23,000 pages of documents were also released.

1:22.3

It's still only a fraction of the full Epstein files.

1:25.7

But what have we now learnt about the convicted paedophile

1:29.1

and his dealings with Donald Trump?

1:40.1

The story today,

1:42.1

the new Epstein emails about Trump.

1:50.4

I'm Josie Ansel, the Times and Sunday Times chief US reporter, who's covered the Epstein case for about five years.

1:59.5

Josie, earlier today, about lunchtime here in the

2:02.4

UK, there was this huge rush of excitement as the House Oversight Committee in the US released

2:08.9

another tranche of emails. What are the emails that the Democrats have now released?

2:14.9

So they've had tens of thousands of documents in their possession for several

2:20.3

months now. So they subpoenaed the Epstein estate who handed them over several weeks later before the

2:25.6

deadline. And this includes everything from flight logs to financial records to emails.

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