You also speak a lot about creatine.

I remember back in the days when I was 14 years old, 15 years old,

we're all bodybuilding, lifting weights, and EAS came up with, you know, creatine.

Everybody was using creatine back in the days.

And then it kind of went away for 15 years.

It looks like creatin is making a comeback.

Tell me why you're so pro-creatin.

Well, I started taking creatine.

I got really serious about resistance training a couple of years ago after having a lot of experts on my podcast that really was compelling to me that muscle mass is very important to maintain as you age, right? And being being someone that was so cardio focused, it was like, okay, I got to start really focusing also on resistance training.

And so creatine can- Were you an athlete back in a day?

Like, did you compete?

I did.

I was like, interesting athlete.

So I was a competitive jump roper and ice skater.

I know, not like the most common thing.

Jump roper.

Yeah, I was, I started a jump rope team with my best friend when I was in second grade. And we're part of, second grade. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So San Diego Sandskippers was the name of the jump rope team. And it was part of the international rope skipping organization at the time. They have a different name now. But essentially, we, there's teams that were all around, only just the u.s but it was global it still

is and we would jump rope and we would compete so we would go and compete every year there was a

camp in boulder colorado everyone to come from around the world and we would compete wow yeah and

listen it's hard exercise it's really hard shoulders it's arms it And listen, it's hard exercise. It's really hard. It's shoulders. It's

arms. It's forearms. It's a full body exercise. And weight bearing. So you're getting the bone

density benefits, which, thank goodness. But so I was a competitive jump roper from the age of about

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