Hello everyone welcome to the next level. I'm J. V. L. here with my best friends

Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the Bulwark thank you for joining us however you're doing

that whether it's over the podcast or the YouTube subscription page or all of it.

This will probably be the worst show we've done.

Oh, it could not possibly be worse than last week with A.B.

I've had several people tell me that they had to stop listening to that podcast because they were starting to look for razor blades.

Well, this is pretty bad too,

because we've had a horrific terrorist attack,

which, you know, over a thousand people so far have been killed and more people are

it's just horrible but we have to talk about it because it's quite important

on October 7 we woke up in the morning to a horrific terrorist attack in the Gaza Strip, thousands

of rockets fired off to penetrate and bamboozled the Iron Dome system and then thousands of Hamas fighters streaming across the border and

massacring civilians almost, almost exclusively, men, women and children, where they lay. It almost defies imagining how terrible it is.

This really is Israel's 9-11. There was only one good thing that I've read in all of this, which is the Atlantic had an interview with a guy. Did you guys see this?

Yeah.

Guy who spent the entire thing in the safe room in his kibbutz, here are things, you know, the way people live.

This guy lives with his young family on a kibbutz right next to the border, and the way these

houses are constructed is they all have safe rooms to

shield them from rocket attacks and that the safe rooms are where the children sleep.

The safe rooms are always your children's bedroom so that they will be.

I just can't imagine living life like that.

Anyway, but this guy is locked in the safe room for like 10 hours,

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