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I'm Roger Marsh.

You know that phrase separation of church and state has been weaponized against people of faith for decades.

But did you know those words don't actually appear anywhere in the U.S. Constitution?

That's right.

This widely misunderstood concept has been twisted to silence Christian voices in the public square. Well, on today's

edition of Family Talk, we're continuing Dr. James Dobson's eye-opening conversation with

Pastor Dan Fisher about America's original Black-robed regiment, courageous pastors who led the fight

for religious liberty during our nation's founding. Pastor Fisher is the author of a book called

Bringing Back the Black Robed Regiment. He's also pastor of Lifepoint Bible Church in Oklahoma

City and a former Oklahoma State legislator who understands both ministry and government applications.

During the next half hour, you'll discover the true origin of the phrase, separation of church and state,

and you'll also hear incredible stories of pastors who literally went from the pulpit to the battlefield.

These men understood that faith and civic duty go hand in hand. So let's get into it right now,

part two of Dr. James Dobson's conversation with Pastor Dan Fisher on today's edition of Family Talk.

Pastor Fisher, it was such a pleasure to have you here last time.

I'm kind of a history buff, amateur, like you say you are.

Me also.

You know, the Revolutionary War in that period fascinates me because the influence of the Second Great Awakening

and how there was such spiritual fervor at that time.

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