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The neuroscience of cracking under pressure

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🗓️ 18 February 2026

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

The 2026 Winter Olympics are unfolding in Milan and Cortina, and we can’t look away: We’re watching athletes fly down mountains on skis and glide — sometimes slipping and falling — on the ice. Vikram Chib studies performance and how the brain responds to rewards at Johns Hopkins University. And he says rewards aren’t just for Olympians; they’re baked into basically everything humans do. But those rewards and the pressure that comes with them can come at a cost to people’s brains. And even Olympians are human. Sometimes, we crack. So, today, Vikram dives into the science behind choking under pressure. 


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0:29.3

The 26 Winter Olympics are underway in Milan and Cortina, and I don't know about you, but I know I'm holding my breath, watching them fly down mountains on skis,

0:39.0

or slip and fall on the ice.

0:41.8

So I can only imagine how the athletes must feel competing with the whole world watching.

0:48.7

And yet, I feel like no matter what we do, whether we're attempting quadruple axles on the ice or just showing up to work, we all experience pressure, right?

1:00.7

Doing an interview on the radio could feel as stressful as that person trying to get the gold medal for their figure skating competition or whatever event they're in.

1:12.6

It's subjective, right?

1:20.3

So for me, it could be the same thing as an Olympian in their gold medal event.

1:24.9

Vikram gets me. Vickram Chib is a biomedical engineer, neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins.

1:29.8

His lab studies performance and how the brain responds to rewards.

1:35.4

And he says reward is baked into basically everything humans do.

1:37.8

And that could be getting a gold medal, right?

1:41.3

Or it could be, you know, reaching for a cup of water. The stakes just vary a lot.

1:45.0

So today on the show, what happens in athletes' brains when those stakes are at their highest?

1:51.4

And what science tells us about how our brains respond to rewards, pressure, and millions of people watching you strive for gold?

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