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Joe Biden was a very useful, I guess, puppet of these people, particularly of what you call the blob, what the Obama administration called a blob, which is really the CIA and the State Department, the Pentagon.

This is your host, Scott Bertram.

Welcome to the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, part of the Hillsdale College Podcast Network.

That was Miranda Devine, author of the brand new book, The Big Guy, How a President at his

son sold out America.

We'll take an in-depth look inside that book with Miranda in just a little bit.

First, we're joined by Molly Hemingway.

She is Senior Journalism Fellow at Hillsdale College,

editor-in-chief at the Federalist and Fox News contributor.

Molly, thanks so much for joining us.

It's great to be here with you.

A very interesting

article in the New York Times this week on Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg, subject of your previous

book, rigged. Mark Zuckerberg, according to the New York Times, is complaining to people

about the blowback to Meta from his politically touchy aspects of his

philanthropic efforts. He regrets hiring employees who try to push him further to the left.

His preference now is to wash his hands of all of it. You know his activities, Mark Zuckerberg's

activities in the political world better than almost anyone.

What do you make of the fact that this not only could be true, but also is now showing up in the New York Times?

Right. A few weeks ago, Mark Zuckerberg sent a letter to Congress that had three interesting things.

And everyone kind of paid attention to the first two. That's where he said

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