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Pablo Torre Finds Out

The Nerd Who Knew Too Much

Pablo Torre Finds Out

Pablo Torre

News, Government, Sports, Sports News

4.72.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

He was the Bill James of basketball. A cocky forefather of sports analytics who saw numbers as colors. Whose book, "Basketball Heaven," helped usher in the three-point era. And who failed. But Martin Manley also left behind a map, ranging from X-Files to his mother-in-law to the path toward the most efficient life... and death. Reporters Nick Altschuller and Rich Levine adapt their new "30 for 30" podcast — produced by our parent company Meadowlark Media and Adam McKay's Hyperobject Industries, in partnership with ESPN.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.

0:07.1

Barbie and Phil, he addressed it to both of us. I hope this is the first you are hearing of it. Today is my 60th birthday, the last day of my life.

0:16.6

Right after this ad.

0:25.3

Look, we have two Pepsi.

0:27.9

When's the last time you had Pepsi out of a two-liter bottle?

0:30.0

God, sixth grade?

0:30.9

Yeah, I was going to say.

0:32.4

A birthday party at Pizza Hut or something?

0:33.9

Pre-pubescent.

0:35.7

I might even venture.

0:38.7

We kept Mountain Dew in the fridge at home in high school. You to drink a lot of mountain dew i did yeah then diet and then i was just done i was done it was

0:44.1

it was my 20s long time mountain dew is so diet mountain dew total side note is the juice that so much

0:53.4

of the sports nerd world runs on?

0:56.5

I was addicted.

0:58.3

Oh, he showed up at the office every day with a diet mountain dew.

1:01.9

And I would walk home from work not being able to wait to get inside and open a cold one from my fridge.

1:07.2

I understood what it's like to be addicted to a beverage.

1:10.7

So the reason why I marvel at

1:12.7

that, as we get into this now, completely of course, spontaneously, is that the man who is most

1:19.5

addicted to Diet Mountain Dew, who I have interviewed while he has been chugging Diet Mountain Dew

1:23.9

with his feet kicked up on a table in a conference room watching at the time

1:29.0

Houston Rockets James Harden Highlights.

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