Hey everybody this is Daniel Vitalis and I'm really excited to be here today with a really dear friend of mine

Somebody who I've been on countless journeys and adventures with and somebody I respect immensely as a colleague not just as a friend but

somebody I've worked alongside and that person's Arthur Haynes. Arthur Haynes

incredible fellow we first met at a primitive skills gathering and as I recall somebody said to me

hey this is a guy you're really gonna like why don't you go up to him and ask him the name of

any plant that you can find and so I did just that.

I walked up to Arthur and I started pointing at plants and he would give me not just

their common names but their scientific names and I found him to be

unstoppable and after that we became fast friends and I got to say after all this time

Arthur there's probably not somebody who's influenced my career as

profoundly as you have and really altered the trajectory of my life's course.

I mean the information that I've come to through our friendship has really changed me as

a person and really helped me get clear on a lot of the questions that I was

asking and a lot of things I was really searching for so you know I want to say thank you

for all that and just want to say welcome to the interview and I was hoping you could

say a little bit about who you are and

a little bit about your background both professionally but also your hobbies because I think they're really

relevant to the conversation.

Thanks Daniel for having me on your podcast.

Yeah, I was thinking as you were going through that little introduction that I would have to say the same back to you that I think there has been a lot of changes in the kinds of things that I have been really begun to study in depth as a result of meeting you as well so that's

been sort of a two-directional and that's great to hear what I do I mean I work

professionally as a plant taxonomist so I'm somebody who specializes in the

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