The Neo-Nazi MI5 Spy
Newscast
BBC
4.3 • 6.6K Ratings
🗓️ 12 February 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Today, we look at a BBC investigation which has revealed that MI5 lied three times in court to protect one of its own violent, neo-Nazi agents.
As it was defending its handling of their agent who had attacked his girlfriend with a machete, MI5 lied to three courts when they said they had stuck to its policy of not confirming or denying their agents’ identities. They had actually given information about this agent to BBC investigations correspondent Daniel De Simone as they tried to persuade him not to continue his investigation. MI5 has apologised to the BBC and all three courts.
Adam is joined by Daniel who explains the details of his investigation.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:05.0 | Hello, we're going to do one big story on today's episode because, well, it's a big story and there's lots of twists and turns to it. |
| 0:12.1 | And at the centre of it is one of my BBC journalistic colleagues and someone who's been on newscast quite a few times before. |
| 0:19.4 | And the story is this, that MI5, the British domestic intelligence agency, |
| 0:24.7 | has apologised today for lying in court three times. |
| 0:29.4 | And this was in the case of an MI5 agent, |
| 0:32.3 | so someone who was paid to provide information to MI5, |
| 0:35.3 | who had attacked his girlfriend. |
| 0:38.2 | And the case had been uncovered by a BBC journalist, and the lies to the court were about |
| 0:44.7 | what MI5 had told this journalist. |
| 0:47.4 | And the evidence that they'd lied was what they told this journalist. |
| 0:51.5 | So we thought we'd spend a good chunk of time chatting to the journalist at the centre of this |
| 0:56.5 | to work out what happened and what's going to happen next. |
| 1:00.3 | So for this episode of Newscast, |
| 1:02.0 | I'm going to speak to my colleague, |
| 1:04.0 | the BBC's investigations correspondent, |
| 1:06.1 | Daniel de Simone, because he is the one at the centre of all of this. |
| 1:10.0 | Newscast. |
| 1:10.7 | Newscast from the BBC. |
| 1:12.3 | I like landscapes. |
| 1:13.3 | I don't think I'm being rude. |
| 1:14.6 | Japping. |
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