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The Gist

The Nazi-Busting Woman Erased by History

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2017

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Elizebeth Smith got her start poring over Shakespearean verse for secret messages that were not there. But she soon used those skills to break codes used by America's enemies in both world wars. The FBI took credit for her decryptions of Nazi messages, and her husband's work received much greater attention from the wars' historians. Jason Fagone changes that with his latest book,­ The Woman Who Smashed Codes, and joins Mike to talk about it.   In the Spiel, Mike surveys podcasting comedians' reactions to Louis C.K.'s admitted sexual misconduct. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains a bit of explicit material,

0:04.8

but much, much more that is not explicit, just as a percentage.

0:09.3

[♪ INTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪

0:13.3

Stores Day November 16th, 2017, from slate, it's the Giestime,

0:17.4

Mike Pasca, Emerson Mungagua, is the new leader of Zimbabwe.

0:21.9

Assumed for a long time to be the heir apparent, I guess assumed implies.

0:26.9

Now, apparent, anyway, to long time leader Robert Mugabe,

0:30.4

it did appear as recently as last week that Mungagua had been usurped,

0:35.7

denied that post-Grace Mugabe, the dictator's wife,

0:39.2

froze him out, power play.

0:41.5

But Emerson Mungagua is back, and now that Mugabe has been deposed,

0:46.5

in a coup, the crocodile has shown his teeth.

0:50.4

Oh, what? What's that? You haven't heard?

0:52.6

Mungagua is known as the crocodile.

0:55.9

A nickname for a cunning political operator that really needs no explanation,

1:00.1

and yet explain they must.

1:03.1

Here's Jason Burke of the Guardian speaking to NPR.

1:06.2

He's known as the crocodile.

1:08.2

Okay, now let's pause for a second to consider why a politician

1:11.9

who flourished as a brutal dictator's right-hand man

1:14.7

might be called the crocodile. What are the possibilities?

1:19.0

He's called the crocodile because the fashionable ladies of Harare

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