The Native Fish Coalition, with Bob Mallard

The Orvis Fly-Fishing Podcast

James Hathaway

Bass, Fishing, Bonefish, Wilderness, Flyfishing, Trout, How To, Steelhead, Bluegill, Fly, Orvis, Sports, Salmon, Panfish, Education, Rosenbauer

4.8 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2022

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

This week, my guest is the executive director of the Native Fish Coalition, Bob Mallard [42:09], who tells us why the organization was formed and what they do. His group took issue with some of the sentiments expressed in last week's podcast with Kirk Deeter, so to give everyone a broader view of the issue of wild native fish (as opposed to just wild fish, and Bob explains the difference in the podcast) I invited Bob to come onto the podcast to explain to us just how precious native or indigenous species are. There is much food for thought here and I hope it makes everyone think about the issues involved.

In the Fly Box this week, we have the usual roundup of interesting and sometimes tricky questions, and some great tips from listeners, including:

How even native black bass in the South are threatened by stocking of non-native varieties

Why doesn't the Orvis Learning Center talk about the spiritual value and nature of fly fishing?

What is the best all-around color for polarized sunglasses?

What's up with bead heads? Insects don't have metal heads.

A great tip from a listener on how to apply eyes to minnow patterns without getting your fingers stuck together with Super Glue.

How can I straighten a bunch of old saddle hackles that have a kink in them?

How do you deal with negative attitudes you hear spouted on the water?

A tip from a listener on how to magnetize or demagnetize a pair of forceps or a dubbing needle.

What fly-tying material does Tom feel is underutilized?

A comment from a listener on how something said on a podcast had a big influence on him regarding the "hero shot".

Why am I only catching whitefish, and do people like catching them?

Why haven't we tried restocking aquatic insects in rivers where they have become scarce?

What is Tom's favorite non-fish wildlife encounter on the river?

Transcript

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0:00.0	Hi and welcome to the Orvis Fly Fishing Podcast. This is your host Tom Hosenbauer. And
0:16.5	this week my guest is Bob Mallard from the Native Fish Coalition. Last week I did a podcast
0:25.1	with Kirk Dieter and Kirk and I kind of played devil's advocate about the Native Fish Movement
0:32.2	and Bob took issue with some of our positions and some of the things we stated with good reason.
0:39.4	And so I invite Bob to come on and podcast this week and tell us more about the Native Fish
0:48.3	Movement and Bob's philosophy of managing resources. So it's another view on the Native versus
0:57.9	invasive versus introduced fish and I think you'll enjoy it. It's a lively discussion.
1:05.6	But first let's do the fly box. And if you have a question for the fly box or a comment or a
1:13.0	tip for other listeners on something we've talked about before, you can send it to me at podcast
1:19.8	at orvis.com. You can either put it in the body of your email or you can attach a voice file.
1:27.3	Without further ado, let's start with an email. This one's from Matt.
1:34.0	I enjoyed the podcast and truly appreciate what you do and have done for this
1:37.7	board of fly fishing and fishing in general. That being said, I listened to the latest podcast
1:42.5	with Kirk Dieter and was a bit disappointed with your views and the conversation in general.
1:48.8	Not once did you or Kirk mention a specific instance where it seemed, in my opinion, that wildlife
1:55.6	fish officials went too far with native species, reintroduction or exotic fish removals.
2:01.6	Everything you cited seemed very reasonable and I'm sure plenty of research proceeded it.
2:06.1	There's so many threats to native fish in this country that need action before it's too late.
2:11.3	It would have been nice if before the conversation you all mentioned how detrimental the movement
2:17.3	of non-natives has been on countless fish species. This has been done by wildlife agencies as well
2:23.6	as civilian bucket biologists over the years. I think this is something that needs to be drilled
2:29.0	home and to my knowledge you mentioned very little if at all. Here in the south are beautiful
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