The National Security Law Podcast Guys Talk Soleimani
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🗓️ 11 January 2020
⏱️ 74 minutes
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As part of Lawfare's continuing coverage of the killing of Iranian Quds Force leader Qassem Soleimani, we are bringing you an edited version of the latest episode of the National Security Law Podcast, in which Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck discuss the legality of the strike and what this means for the future of U.S.-Iranian relations. We edited the podcast down solely to focus solely on the discussion of Soleimani.
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| 0:29.0 | From a legal perspective, domestic law, what's the authority to attack this group that is not the Islamic state or in any way connected? |
| 0:41.0 | Indeed, from that perspective part of the fight against the Islamic state, what was the domestic legal authority for that? |
| 0:49.0 | I think everyone, including myself who looked at this, well, if it's true that these guys just launched 30 rockets that killed an American and wounded others, |
| 0:57.0 | of course you have unit self-defense and national self-defense concepts under Article 2 of the Constitution. |
| 1:03.0 | So I didn't view that as particularly tricky question. |
| 1:06.0 | And to be frank, I bring the same analysis to bear on the subsequent step of attacking Soleimani, |
| 1:12.0 | although I recognize of course it's a more difficult and complicated question from a legal perspective, |
| 1:17.0 | let alone from a policy perspective. |
| 1:20.0 | I'm Benjamin Wittes and this is the LawFair podcast January 11th, 2020. |
| 1:26.0 | The National Security Law podcast is something you should be listening to every week. |
| 1:31.0 | The brainchild of Bobby Chesney, LawFair co-founder and Steve Laddick, both of the University of Texas Law School, |
| 1:40.0 | is the deepest dive on the National Security Law subjects of the day available anywhere in podcast land. |
| 1:49.0 | This week, however, the conversation between the two of them on the Soleimani killing and the law thereof was so fabulous that we thought we would inject it into your feeds through the LawFair podcast feed as well. |
| 2:05.0 | So here's what we did. We took the podcast, we edited it down just to the substantive discussions of the law of the strike. |
| 2:14.0 | So some parts may be a little choppy, move from subject to subject, but we took out everything else and we brought you just the discussion which is as deep a dive as we get on the subject. |
| 2:28.0 | It's the LawFair podcast episode 494, the National Security Law podcast guys, talk Soleimani. |
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