The national debt is ballooning, and Americans are worried
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🗓️ 27 March 2026
⏱️ 7 minutes
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The U.S. national debt crossed $39 trillion last week, and it’s growing fast. Racking up the most recent $5 trillion of that total only took two years. Now, a new survey finds that Americans' fiscal confidence is the lowest it’s been in a couple of years. Also on this morning's show: Anthropic gets a (temporary) win in its fight with the Pentagon, and commuters reflect on two years without Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge.
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| 0:00.0 | The national debt is ballooning from Marketplace. I'm Nancy Marshall Genser in for David Brancaccio. |
| 0:07.5 | First, a federal judge has blocked the Trump administration from labeling the AI company Anthropic, |
| 0:13.4 | a supply chain risk for now. The administration had tried to ban government agencies from using Anthropic |
| 0:19.6 | after a dispute between the Department of Defense |
| 0:22.0 | and the company over how its tools can be used. Marketplaces Henry Epp reports. |
| 0:27.0 | The fight between the Pentagon and Anthropic burst into public view a month ago. The company |
| 0:31.7 | had sought to limit what the government can do with its AI tools, which are branded as Claude. |
| 0:36.8 | Specifically, Anthropic wanted to make |
| 0:38.5 | sure its products wouldn't be used to power fully autonomous weapons or on mass surveillance of |
| 0:43.9 | Americans. The Pentagon didn't want to agree to any restrictions on how it uses Anthropics |
| 0:49.1 | tools. After a public spat, President Trump designated Anthropic a supply chain risk and told government |
| 0:55.2 | agencies to wind down their use of the company's products within six months. |
| 0:59.9 | Defense Secretary Pete Hagsath also ordered other companies that contract with the Pentagon |
| 1:04.6 | to stop working with Anthropic. |
| 1:06.7 | The company then sued the administration, arguing it caused Anthropic, quote, ongoing and |
| 1:11.7 | irreparable harm. On Thursday, a judge sided with Anthropic and blocked the administration's |
| 1:17.0 | ban on the company, but the order won't take effect for a week to give the administration a chance |
| 1:21.9 | to appeal. Meanwhile, Anthropic is planning to go public this fall, according to news reports |
| 1:26.9 | this week. The company was |
| 1:28.5 | valued at $380 billion in February before its dispute with the Pentagon. I'm Henry App for Marketplace. |
| 1:35.5 | The U.S. national debt crossed $39 trillion last week, and it's still growing fast. Racking up the most |
| 1:42.7 | recent $5 trillion of that total only took two |
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