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It's the Brian Larishow on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. In 2020, 56% of men under 30 voted for Joe Biden. In 2024, that same percentage, 56% voted for Donald Trump. That dramatic swing is cited in the April cover story of the Nation magazine,

a story with the title, Are Men Okay? And the answer largely is no. On its face, the article

is a profile of the author Richard Reeves. Some of you know of him. He wrote that book called

Of Boys and Men, Why the modern male is struggling, why it

matters and what to do about it. The article also brings in other writers on the topic,

Susan Faludi, Jessica Falarko, Hannah Rosen, others. But most of the article frames the issue

of men and masculinity today through describing Richard Reeves and the pushback to him from both left and

right. The article explains that Reeves sees his project as trying to not seed the national

conversation about the plight and the alienation of men today to the right-wing manosphere,

to not seed the conversation to that. Reeves celebrates feminism

as perhaps the quote, greatest economic liberation in human history. That's a quote cited in

the article. Barack Obama put Reeves book on his public summer reading list. It's endorsed by

Senator Chris Murphy, among others. Through the profile of Richard Reeves,

the article of the nation raises some of the questions surrounding American men today. Why is there

now a much lower rate of going to college or entering the workforce among men than among women?

Why have women changed so much in the decades of modern feminism,

but men, not so much? Why are retro masculinity figures like Trump and J.D. Vance and a list of

angry and often misogynist podcasters, as popular as they are with young men today? So let's

have some of this conversation with the author

of the article in the nation. Amon Huelan, who covers the intersection of masculinity and the political

right. Amen, thanks for coming on. Welcome to WNYC. Thanks. Thanks for having me, Brian. Why do you want

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