Hey, Lauren, how's it gone? I'm doing good. And as usual, I have a question for you today.

Okay. Are there places or experiences that you feel like you missed? I don't know, places that you almost went to or thought you would definitely go back to or a trip that fell

through or something that didn't happen that you think like oh that's kind of like the one that got

away i feel like the sound of silence is playing in the background in my head right now like hello

darkness my old friend like yeah like i'm like really you're going to do this to me on this

wednesday afternoon it's like there goes the rest of the afternoon.

I mean, what feels, what's hard about this question for you? It's sort of joking. I think I've said this on the show multiple times in the past, but like at some point, you know, like I sat down and I was like, I want to do, like I kind of like, I don't know, like it was like I made a vague list of everything I wanted to do with my life and I was like, that's three lives, dude. You know, you can't fit this all into that. So, yes, there are places that you're like, I thought at this age I would have gone there. You know, I thought I would have done this. And I've been to a lot of places. I'm really, really grateful. I feel deeply privileged. I love my work. I love my family. You know, like I just realize that, except there's not enough time in the day. I feel like we're going to talk about one of the places I really wish I'd been to today. Yeah, what do you know about Tihippity Valley?

Oh, it's definitely on the list.

It's definitely on the list.

How could it not be, if you've not heard of Tepity Valley, it's like the forgotten Yosemite in the Sierra.

Like Tihippity Dome is the biggest kind of cliff face in the Sierra.

I'm pretty sure, and it's this, it's hard to get to. It's kind of mythic. When I was young, oh my God, like we had these guidebooks that were terrible that were like back in my day. And I mean, I'm grateful for them, but that was like the Seekore guidebook for the Sierra. And it was just like...

Peaks, passes, and trails.

Yeah, exactly.

You know, and you would get like a paragraph about a valley, and it would be so sparse and so

vague.

And you could tell that certain ones were better where they'd be like, this is an epic one.

Expect harrowing trails, difficult river crossings. I don't, I wish I had the book right now, like, however we would have described it. But you would have been like, it's just an adventure to get there. And then on top of it, you're going to go climb some crazy cliff face that's 3,500 feet or something like that. It just, it was all like, you know, 23 year oldold that was catnip, and I thought I would have gone there a long time ago. Yeah, what do you think kept you from going there? Was it just how crazy remote it is? I mean, it's all the same things of like you talk to. We're like, we should do it next year, and then it doesn't happen. Someone gets hurt. All those things. but I don't know. I guess we're about to go there today, which is great. I love it.

It's just going to make me, you know, all those things. But I don't know, I guess we're about to go there today, which is great.

I love it.

It's just going to make me, you know, FOMO, it's good. It's all good. Who are we talking to today, Lauren? Oh, yeah. So we are talking today to Rebecca Ramirez. And she is a woman of many talents. There's some rock star in her. We're going to hear a little bit of her band's music throughout the episode.

But she's also this, conservationist, and she's an obsessive angler, and she's kind of this perfectionist, but she's there also for all the bumps along the way. She's thought

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