meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The New York City Crime Report with Pat Dixon

The Myth of Making a Murderer - Ken Kratz and Tom Fassbender

The New York City Crime Report with Pat Dixon

Pat Dixon

True Crime, News, News Commentary

4.2831 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2017

⏱️ 63 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

NYC CRIME REPORT SPECIAL

Documentary Series Making a Murderer was widely viewed and it's bullshit. 

In this episode, prosecutor Ken Kratz, co-lead investigator Tom Fassbender and host Pat Dixon discuss just a few of the ways in which the makers of Making a Murderer bent the truth for profit and in the process, essentially became the PR firm of a cold convicted killer. 

a note from the host - NYC Crime Report fans are aware, I never discuss crimes that occur outside the city. This is why I made the exception. Given the opportunity to interview these men, I couldn't pass. Given the importance of what they're saying, I had to post it right away. Check out Kratz's book Avery at crimereport.nyc. 

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Look at that. There you are.

0:01.7

Lovely.

0:02.2

With your books, sir.

0:03.7

Barnes & Noble.

0:04.7

Other places, you know, that's from either the opening or the closing, and they use that picture a lot.

0:12.0

My girlfriend likes it.

0:12.9

I don't.

0:13.8

She thinks that putting my finger up on making a point or whatever, but it's been, I guess,

0:18.9

the subject to so many memes on Facebook and Twitter that it's hard to even look at that picture anymore.

0:24.4

Oh, okay. Well, and I tried to find one where you didn't look so tired, Tom,

0:29.7

but that was just the one that they gave me, and you look exhausted there. You look like,

0:34.3

I can't believe I'm talking about this shit again.

0:46.7

Okay. it there you look like is this believe I'm talking about this shit again this is the book that sets it straight case against Stephen Avery and what making a murderer gets wrong for it by Nancy Grace oh man I this is a great book

0:52.5

thanks for being here, Ken.

0:54.3

I appreciate it.

0:55.4

And also, I can't believe that I have both of you here.

1:00.2

Tom Fastbender.

1:01.3

Both you guys kind of despised by a bunch of people who don't really know what they're talking about.

1:06.5

That's okay.

1:07.3

We are getting used to it, which which is kind of which is kind of good

1:11.8

making a murderer is a and was a very very well done piece it did vilify though

1:20.4

myself two really good police officers Jim Link and Andy Colburn.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Pat Dixon, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Pat Dixon and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.