The Mystery of Matthias Sindelar, Part Two
It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast
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4.9 • 667 Ratings
🗓️ 31 January 2025
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast.
Austrian footballer Matthias Sindelar was one of the greats of the game but his mysterious death in 1939 at the age of just 35 became a hugely contested issue in the darkest era of Austrian history. Was he murdered because he objected to the Nazis? Did he chose to end his life unable to countenance living under Hitler? Or was he the victim of a tragic accident? And what role had his girlfriend Camilla Castagnola, found dead alongside him, played?
Join Jonathan and Rob in the second and final part as they separate fact from fiction in the life of a lesser known great….
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| 0:00.0 | The good Sindelah followed the city, whose child and pride he was to its death. |
| 0:11.6 | He was so inextricably entwined with it that he had to die when it did. |
| 0:16.8 | All the evidence points to suicide, prompted by loyalty to his homeland, |
| 0:21.4 | for to live and play football in a downtrodden, broken, tormented city |
| 0:25.9 | meant to deceive in Vienna with the repulsive respecter of itself. |
| 0:30.7 | But how can one play football like that, |
| 0:33.4 | and live when a life without football is nothing? |
| 0:38.1 | Well, welcome back to it was what it was. |
| 0:40.5 | I'm Rob Draper, and I'm here with Jonathan Wilson. |
| 0:44.2 | And we're into part two of our fascinating, intriguing and tragic story about Mathieu Sinderla, |
| 0:51.3 | the great Austrian footballer, and the backdrop of the 1930s and the |
| 0:56.1 | Anschliss with Nazi Germany. He died in January 1939 and that was Alfred Polga, the great |
| 1:02.8 | writer, recording his obituary, how his death really felt like the death of an independent |
| 1:09.5 | Vienna, the death of independent |
| 1:11.2 | Austrian, the two things fused together. So Jonathan, in part one of this series, which you |
| 1:17.6 | go back and listen to, if you haven't already done so, we went over the early life, |
| 1:23.9 | Mathieu Sindler, but also touched on the intrigue surround his death. And now here |
| 1:29.8 | we are at a point where Austria has united with Nazi Germany under Hitler and Sindler has died |
| 1:38.0 | shortly after that. What's going on? What's the reaction in Austria and what's a sort of deeper backdrop to that |
| 1:45.5 | politically as well? Yeah, I think we should say that Polgar is writing from a particular perspective |
| 1:51.1 | and as we'll find out, I don't think his conclusions that we can necessarily rely on. And I think |
| 1:58.2 | that's something that becomes pretty apparent pretty quickly that both |
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