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🗓️ 18 May 2023
⏱️ 40 minutes
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In a live conversation taped at the 92nd Street Y in New York City, Malcolm chats with his old friend and New Yorker magazine colleague, Adam Gopnik, about Adam’s latest book, The Real Work: On the Mystery of Mastery. In the book, Adam follows numerous masters of their craft to find out just how they do what they do—and discovers that there is mastery all around us. In this episode, Malcolm and Adam highlight a few of the folks from the book, and what they have to teach us. You can purchase the audiobook version of The Real Work: On the Mystery of Mastery at Pushkin.fm
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0:00.0 | Pushkin. |
0:07.0 | Think back to the last time you asked yourself, why did I do that? |
0:13.0 | Regret is actually a very hopeful emotion. |
0:16.0 | It's something that is helping us learn from our mistakes and do better in the future. |
0:21.0 | I'm Shankar Vedantam, host of a podcast called Hidden Brain. |
0:25.0 | In every episode, we uncover surprising and useful insights that will help you thrive. |
0:31.0 | When people have successful relationships, they often imagine that other people understand them better than they actually do. |
0:40.0 | So when you talk to yourself instead of beating yourself up, you say something like, well, it's okay. I messed up. It's only human. I'll just try again. |
0:48.0 | Then other people get the message that maybe that's a better way to talk to themselves. |
0:52.0 | Patterns that you're recognizing from the past may not be relevant to the problem you're solving right now in the present. |
0:58.0 | And so you don't want to trust your gut, you want to test your gut. |
1:02.0 | Join us as we reveal what's in your Hidden Brain. |
1:12.0 | Hello, hello everyone. Welcome, Global here. |
1:15.0 | You may have noticed that revisionist history looks a little different this season. |
1:20.0 | More things in your podcast feed, but I want to make clear, you're still going to get your annual dose of 10 scripted revisionist history jewel boxes. |
1:29.0 | It's just that people kept coming up to me in the subway and saying, why can't we have more revisionist history? |
1:36.0 | And finally I thought, like the man said, give the people what they want. |
1:42.0 | So coming up this year, we had the standard old school revisionist history lineup, including someone education, a crazy one about mothers and a bunch on guns that I'm very excited about. |
1:53.0 | But we're also doing more episodes answering your questions or arguing with you with the help of our embarrassingly overqualified, hummus person, Maria Conocova. |
2:02.0 | You can reach us by the way, and Maria had info, had pushkin.fm, if you have questions or concerns, or just want to rant for a while. |
2:12.0 | And one of my favorite things we're doing though is we're bringing you a series of conversations, live talks or tape live anyway, with people I admire, people I want to learn something from and who I think you'll enjoy as well. |
2:26.0 | We had an amazing reaction to the chat with Justin Richmond, and if you haven't heard that yet, please go back and listen. |
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