Craig, I know you're a big stars fan.

I heard you talking about it on the T-box quite a bit.

This wasn't really a surprise to anybody, was it?

Well, not after the last game, right?

Yeah.

As soon as he, when he pulled Ottinger, the way he pulled it,

and the way he talked about Ottinger afterwards.

Yes.

Not endearing to your team, especially when Ottinger signed long term and that's your goalie.

Yeah.

Yeah, you got issues.

Yeah, and the exit interviews, we heard all those reports that the players do these exit interviews with the GM, Jim Nill,

and that those didn't go where Pete DeBore.

Nill held a press conference on Friday after the news came

down and Nill said in that press conference that he didn't really have a problem with

Ottinger being pulled in game five but he did have a problem with DeBore's comments.

I get no problem with the pull at all. If you're coaching, we've just let two goals in.

You've got to change momentum. So to change the goal, I get no problem with that.

Did you have an issue with his comments after the game and even the day after?

I think everybody did. I think even Pete, a little bit remorseful of it a little bit. So I don't think

he handled that the way he wanted to.

But you remember you're under duress, the pressure of everything going on in that.

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