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Interchange Recharged

The muscle we forgot: SMRs, hyperscalers, and why this nuclear renaissance might actually be different

Interchange Recharged

Wood Mackenzie

Innovation, Tech News, Climate Change, Energy, Technology, Fossil Fuels, Wind Energy, Solar Energy, Business, Cleantech, News, Renewable Energy, Alternative Energy, 908174, Environment

4.8535 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Why nuclear has never been project financed and how that might finally be about to change.

Every nuclear plant ever built has ultimately been backstopped by taxpayers or ratepayers. Not because the technology doesn't work, but because nobody has ever cracked the construction cost and schedule problem well enough to convince a bank to finance it without government support. Bridget van Dorsten is joined by Jake Jurewicz, Co-founder and CEO of Blue Energy, to explore why that has been so hard and what a credible path to fixing it might actually look like.

Jake walks through the root cause of nuclear's cost overrun problem and it is not the reactor. The reactor equipment itself represents around 7% of total project costs. The real problem is what Jake calls nuclear construction overhead: the cost of mobilizing, training, and retaining the 10,000 or so skilled workers needed to build these plants in the field, the way we have been building them for 70 years, essentially the same way you would build a castle.

The episode then turns to what Blue Energy is doing differently. By intentionally selecting sites accessible by barge and contracting existing oil and gas fabrication yards and shipyards to build large pre-assembled modules offsite, Blue Energy aims to bring fixed-price contracts into nuclear for the first time, the same contracting structure that made offshore wind and LNG bankable. Jake explains why that single shift changes everything for project financing.

Bridget and Jake also work through the demand side of the equation: why hyperscalers are becoming the crucial beachhead market for new nuclear, what binding PPAs from investment-grade counterparties actually signal versus announcements, and why the restarts and uprates, while valuable, only go so far.

The conversation also covers Blue Energy's first announced project at the Port of Victoria in Texas, a 1.5 gigawatt nuclear-powered AI data centre co-located with a gas-to-nuclear conversion, designed to accelerate commercial operation and reduce cost of capital even without government loan support. Jake explains the mechanics of why firing the balance of plant with gas first before switching to nuclear steam is not a compromise but a genuine financing innovation.

Finally, Jake offers a view of what signals actually matter when separating the nuclear renaissance from the noise: binding PPAs, large balance sheets standing behind fixed-price contracts, and projects moving through the Nuclear Regulatory Commission rather than staying at the prototype stage.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

We stand on the shoulders of giants.

0:03.0

It's weird.

0:04.0

It's like this technology we inherited from a previous civilization.

0:07.0

It's like what are all these nuclear power plants?

0:09.0

We've kind of stumbled upon them.

0:10.0

Data centers used to be, a big data center used to be 10 or 50 megawatts.

0:13.0

Now there are multiple gigawatts.

0:15.0

We have sucked up all the spare capacity and optionality in the grid.

0:19.0

We now, the hyperscalers need to step up

0:21.8

and make longer-term investments.

0:24.8

Every nuclear plant that's ever been built has ultimate has been backstopped by taxpayers

0:31.1

or ratepayers in some way, shape, or form.

0:33.6

Because the cost overrun and the schedule of run risk is so high, nobody but the government

0:38.5

is willing to take the risk and backstop the risk. We, through this method of fabrication,

0:45.5

we have blue energy think there is a way. Wood McKenzie's Solar Energy and Storage Summit is back

0:52.2

in Denver on the 29th and 30th of April,

0:55.0

2026.

0:56.0

It's co-located with the brand new North American Power and Renewables Forum, which features

1:01.0

senior speakers from across the US power sector.

1:04.0

Come and join over 450 senior leaders from US power developers, utilities, and independent power producers to tackle

1:13.1

the industry's biggest challenges. From navigating life after tax credits to capturing the load

1:18.9

growth boom, discover how the energy mix is evolving and how the U.S. is going to meet that power

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