Hey guys and welcome to the Moms and Murder podcast, a true crime podcast featuring myself Mandy and my dear friend Melissa.

Hi, Melissa.

Hi, Mandy.

How are you doing this week?

Busy, but wonderful.

Yes, I know, I agree.

Super busy.

Yeah.

So we're going to get right into it today. We have a special

episode, which I feel like we do all the time because we just like to keep you guys guessing on what we're

doing here. Well, by us being special, it just makes every episode special. Is that how it works?

I will go for that explanation for sure. So we're going to be talking today about the O.J. Simpson case, which was kind of something we were a little apprehensive about doing because, of course, it's been done a lot.

And, you know, we don't really want to do something that we can't bring anything interesting to.

So we are mostly going to talk today about what was said in a kind of a newish documentary series that was on investigation discovery called Is OJ Innocent, The Missing Evidence?

And there was some detectives that worked that case, that worked the case in that documentary and kind of uncovered a little bit of new evidence that maybe you've heard of, maybe you haven't.

But we're going to kind of go through what was said in there. And then at the end of this episode, we are going to have an interview with Derek Lavasser, who was one of the detectives on that show. So that is a really cool interview. We hope you guys will stick around and you'll enjoy that. He'll answer some of our questions that we have about OJ, and then he has a few other things that he's going to share with us. So stick around at the end, and you'll hear that lovely interview that we have.

And he won Mandy's only favorite reality show, Big Brother. Yes, he did. He won Big Brother,

which I don't know why. I didn't mention that to start with. I know. That's like the selling

point. And then, I mean, he's wonderful anyway. But that's what we lead with. If you're trying to convince me to listen to something, you leave with reality. Right. Right. So it was kind of like a mashup of both of our world this week. So it was great. So we're just going to go through, you know, everybody kind of knows this case.

We're going to go through a brief rundown of the case, and then we're just going to get right

into discussing some of the evidence that was presented in this documentary series and kind of just

go through those and talk about what some of the theories are that are out there and what some of

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