Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Moms and Murder podcast, a true crime podcast featuring myself, Mandy, and Melissa. Hi, Melissa. Hi, Mandy. How are you? I'm doing well. I feel like we just saw each other not too long ago, basically. Because we recorded our last episode later in the week than usual. So it's always great to see you anyway. I was going to say the opposite, but perfect. And it's not great to see me?

No, it's not great for you to see me.

So I apologize.

All right.

I think Melissa has a couple of notes that we're going to give before we just jump right

into episode 11.

Perfect.

So we started our, we changed the name of our Facebook group to Mums the Word. And lots of you guys have joined. It's really fun, silly, lots of random things going on in there, which I love, talking from everything from the show, the center, to different other murders that you hear about to just general things general life stuff which is

always fun we enjoy it um so if you haven't joined us there mum's the word m um um like we're fancy

and british so um and then also wanted to remind you guys about our patreon thing what is it called

patreon page patreon. Patreon.com slash

moms and murder podcast. I forgot the word podcast last time. We have our stickers. Mandy brought the

stamps. They're headed out to you. Yay. They're finally on their way. And if you receive your sticker

and love it as much as I do, please let us know so that I don't feel so

alone for my childlike love and joy over these stickers.

Poor Lori is going to get the first, she's our first patron, and she's getting one with a

straight up cheetah mark on it because one of my kids grabbed one of the pretty cards.

So I apologize, but yours has the most personality and DNA on any of the cards.

So we are going to jump right in with this.

Another cool, interesting case.

And you know there's something great about a dumb criminal.

And that's what we're bringing you tonight.

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