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Hello and welcome to the Witness Podcast with me Mike Lanchin, history told by the people who were there.

Today we go back to October of 1975 when one of

Brazil's leading journalists Vladimir Herzog was killed by the secret police.

His murder became a symbol of the military's brutality

and sent shock waves through the country. I've been speaking to his son Evo who was

just nine years old at the time. I used to say that we're

a faster to me is a callis.

I used to say that until his death we were like ordinary children.

We would play, we would be innocent about what's going on around us,

and then after that everything went way differently. On that October morning in 1975 when his world fell apart,

Evo Herzog was asleep at the family home in Rio de Janeiro.

I didn't see my father leaving on the start of the morning.

He left, I think, quite early.

I only heard about him again on the following day.

When my mother woke up me and my brother we used to sleep in the same room

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