Hey guys and welcome to the Moms a Murder podcast, a true crime podcast featuring

myself Mandy and my dear friend Melissa.

Hi, Melissa.

Hey, Mandy.

How are you?

I'm doing okay this week.

I just, just before we started recording, I was just catching up on some of the

happenings going on. And I just read the tragic news about the really serious car pile up that

happened today in Texas. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. And you know how I am. I'm like already, I'm, I'm very

cautious driver and very, you know how I get. I get anxiety about driving. So just reading about that almost made my anxiety go through the roof. So yeah, if any of our listeners were affected by that or have family that were, our hearts definitely go out to you. That looked so horrifying from what I saw the pictures. And I watched a couple of videos. And then I was like, what are you doing? Turn this off. So I did not keep watching. No, I don't blame it. Yeah, it was when I read about and was like, man, that's so terrible. I can't watch that kind of stuff either. I'm not a very fearful driver, but I don't need to be pushed in that direction. So I just stayed off of it. But yeah, and we don't know how to drive an ice or snow or anything like

that. So I just stayed off of it. But yeah, and we don't know how to

drive an ice or snow or anything like that. So just the idea is terrifying. So yeah, I feel really

bad for everyone that that affected, of course. And in good news, exciting news, the spin-off podcast,

the other podcast that I'm doing with Rebecca Sebastian

Criminality, it comes out this week. By the time you're listening, there's already an episode,

yeah, about Mike the Situation Sorrentino. How familiar are you with The Shore, Mandy?

My knowledge is limited to what I have gathered from being friends with you for the last few years.

I'm so, so sorry.

I just realized we did a gym one early on, an episode early on about kind of that culture.

Jim Tan Murder.

I remember that one.

Yes, Jim Tan Murder.

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