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The Why Files: Operation Podcast

The Murder Cult Started By A Banned Post

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

The Why Files

Science, Life Sciences, Documentary, Society & Culture, Fiction, Science Fiction

4.8 β€’ 9.4K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 13 March 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

In 2010, someone posted a thought experiment on a philosophy forum. Within hours, people were having nightmares. The founder deleted it immediately β€” which only made it spread faster. The idea is simple and brutal: a future AI will look back through time and punish everyone who knew it was coming but did nothing to help. Now that you know, you're already in its crosshairs. What started as an internet curiosity grew into something far darker β€” a real community, real violence, and six people dead. This is the story of Roko's Basilisk: the idea you can't un-know, the cult it inspired, and why some of the most powerful people in AI still won't talk about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acJ7WfebEcc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In July 2010, someone posted a thought experiment on a philosophy forum.

0:06.5

It was called Rokos Basilisk.

0:09.0

Within hours, people reported nightmares.

0:12.0

Some had panic attacks.

0:13.0

At least one person had a full nervous breakdown.

0:17.0

The forum's founder was so disturbed, he deleted the post and banned all discussion of it.

0:22.6

This just made things worse. This philosophical virus spread to all corners of the internet.

0:27.6

So did the nightmares, the panic, and the nervous breakdowns.

0:31.6

But here's the twist. As long as you don't learn about it, you're safe.

0:36.6

But don't bother clicking away. Now that you know about Rok learn about it, you're safe. But don't bother clicking away.

0:38.8

Now that you know about Rokos Basilisk, you're already doomed.

0:51.2

Less wrong was a community obsessed with thinking correctly.

0:54.4

It was founded in 2009 by AI researcher Elizer Yudkowski for programmers, mathematicians, and physicists.

1:01.9

A forum where everybody thinks is smarter than everyone else.

1:05.5

So basically, Reddit.

1:08.0

On July 23rd, 2010, a username Roco posted something that almost destroyed the community.

1:13.6

The full title was Solutions to the Altruist Burden, the Quantum Billionaire Trick.

1:18.6

Now, buried inside that boring title was a mind puzzle that gave people nightmares.

1:23.6

Roco described a future artificial superintelligence.

1:28.0

This AI is benevolent.

1:29.6

It wants to cure diseases and end human suffering.

1:32.6

But the AI realizes that every day it doesn't exist, people die who could have been saved.

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