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Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. So pleased to welcome back, Haviv, Redhig Gore.

Haviv is the Middle East correspondent for the free press. He's also the host of Ask Haviv Anything. I'm a member of his Patreon community. I recommend that you become that because it's really some of the smartest conversations in the world. Ask Haviv Anything Podcast is completely for you. I don't miss an episode. Haviv, how are you? I'm good. I'm good. How are you,

Hugh? I'm good. I greatly enjoyed the interview with Jonah Platt, though I did not know who he was

until you sat down with him. I was a little bit amused because Jonah's despairing that there isn't enough great Jewish content in Hollywood

is like every conversation I've had with an evangelical Christian for the last 30 years

that I lived in Hollywood saying, we don't have enough evangelical.

You know, Hollywood makes what sells.

I thought he was very interesting, but I also thought you rebuked him.

You people are going to argue? This is the most privileged set of Jews in world history, and you're going to be upset?

Look, there isn't enough of the Jewish experience in Hollywood.

The Jews kind of in America are too easy to, I think, in my opinion, are too easy. They're too quick to dismiss

themselves, dismiss their experience, seed the ground to everybody else. And I don't think that's

very different from evangelicals and from Catholics and from other faith groups. By the way,

religion is hugely popular when Hollywood actually goes around,

gets around to doing it. Look at Steven Spielberg's Prince of Egypt. These are things that kids

remember all their lives. And so it's a shame that the stories of these groups, minorities,

not-so minorities, aren't told in Hollywood. Hollywood's not producing all that great stuff lately. I mean, no offense to the MCU, but what the heck is the MCU? You know what I mean? Yeah, well, I'm with you because I used to be a two movie a week guy, and now that I've turned 70, I would be a three movie a week guy if I had the time, but there aren't any movies, so we're not.

Haviv, I have two serious questions and then some big questions.

First one, I just don't know.

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