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The Rich Roll Podcast

The Multiplicity of the Mind: Dr. Richard Schwartz On A Systems Approach to Healing the Self

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2023

⏱️ 127 minutes

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Summary

How do we become more integrated and healed humans? Answering these questions is the life’s work of today’s guest Dr. Richard Schwartz, a psychotherapist who created a very interesting and effective therapeutic modality called Internal Family Systems (or IFS). IFS is premised on the idea that every person has different “parts” within them, each with its own unique characteristics and functions, separate from one’s true or core Self. Furthermore, emotional healing and greater well-being can be experienced by bringing these various parts into harmony with each other—integrating them, if you will—in a process many have found transformative. Dr. Schwartz has been practicing and teaching IFS for decades and has authored several books on the subject, including, You Are The One You’ve Been Waiting For and No Bad Parts. This episode covers many fascinating topics, including the fundamentals of IFS and how it works, Dr. Schwartz’s ‘many parts’ multiplicity of mind model, how to deal with our inner critic, how IFS operates to address addiction, trauma, and depression, and more. This episode culminates in Dr. Schwartz illustrating his process by taking me (albeit a bit reluctantly) through a fairly intense psychological exercise I hope you find informative. Dr. Schwartz’s work is deeply fascinating, and this conversation has stuck with me. My hope is that this exchange inspires you to do the internal work required to live a more integrated and purpose-driven life. Show notes + MORE Watch on Youtube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Seed: seed.com/richroll Whoop: http://www.whoop.com/ Timeline Nutrition: timelinenutrition.com/richroll BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/richroll Plant Power Meal Planner: https://meals.richroll.com SriMu: http://srimu.com/rrp Peace + Plants, Rich

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0:00.0

The Rich Roll Podcast.

0:07.0

Been at it 40 years.

0:09.0

Yeah.

0:10.0

Still finding parts that need to be healed, but it's natural.

0:19.0

Ask these questions of that place in your body and wait for the answers to come.

0:24.0

My guest today is a psychotherapist who created a very interesting and effective therapeutic

0:31.8

modality called internal family systems or IFS.

0:36.0

It's quite a radical shift in paradigm.

0:39.4

You left all that in the past, not realizing you were locking away, exiling, your most precious

0:45.5

qualities.

0:46.5

Dr. Richard Schwartz.

0:47.5

Dick Schwartz.

0:48.5

Dick Schwartz.

0:49.5

IFS.

0:50.5

Yeah, it's incredible.

0:51.5

I think Schwartz is the...

0:52.5

Some of these parts are bad.

0:54.2

Can we not label that as something pernicious that we need to override and overcome?

1:01.0

You can, but it hasn't been working that well.

1:03.4

He has authored several books on the subject, including you are the one you've been waiting

1:07.4

for.

1:08.4

And it's all coming up quick.

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