Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast Inside Rail.

I have the distinct pleasure of sitting this afternoon with Dr. Lon Jones, whose company is

Common Sense Medicine and has written a book by that same title, as well as another book,

called Make America Healthy Again.

I believe he may in fact be the originator of that phrase.

In any case, Dr. Jones,

welcome to Dark Horse. Glad to be here. Nice to meet you. It's very good to meet you.

I should tell our audience, since your son, Nate Jones, has been on the program, talked about five carbon sugars. I have in fact been using the product clear, and I'm one person.

I can't exactly say whether I've just been lucky with respiratory infections since I started

using it, but I have had only one very minor infection.

So potentially it's good stuff, which we will talk about why it might be.

How often and how long have you used clear?

It's a good question and I'm often terrible with such questions.

It's been, I think, something like a year, so I've been through a winter where I typically would have had

several infections and as I said, I had one very minor run in with something. But anyway, we'll get

into the discussion of five carbon sugars. I have lots of questions about it and you're just

the man to tell me the answers. But from the point of view of orienting the audience, your book Common Sense Medicine is about the mismatch between modern humans and the environment that they live in and the effect of that mismatch on health, which I presume you don't know that

Heather and I, Heather being my wife, and I have written a book, A Hunter Gatherers Guide

to the 21st Century, in which we coin a concept we call hyper-novety.

And hyper-novality is the idea that when the rate of change is fast to the point that you can't

evolutionarily keep up with it, the production, the consequence is to make you sick at every conceivable

level from psychological to physiological to social, and that that is, in fact, what we are experiencing.

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